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Jan. 31, 2021

Ep 7: Below the surface - language of maps and nature

In this special episode, we interview Soo Ryu, a PhD fellow at the Aarhus School of Architecture. We discuss non-verbal ways of communication, with a focus on the power and limitations of maps to reveal and conceal. We also consider our terrestrial biases and how our worldviews can be constrained by using words like ‘nature’ that reinforce our separation from the world around us. This episode will be showcased at the 2021 Sustainable Living Festival on 17 February, where you can join us in a li…

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Jan. 30, 2021

Ep. 6 (part 1): Our climate stories

Why do some people care about climate change more than others? In this episode, Rosie, Amélie and Phani reflect on how their past has led them to care about climate change, and what keeps them going. We are reminded that everyone has their own unique story, regardless of their level of engagement with environmentalism. All three find talking about climate with loved ones challenging, but there are lessons for how positive interaction with friends and family can lead to meaningful impacts in the…

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Dec. 9, 2020

Ep. 5: Feeling our experiences, the pros and cons of apocalyptic framing of climate change

In this episode, we examine the use of apocalyptic framing in climate change communications. Traditionally, the end has been nigh for religious and moralistic reasons with a call to repent (though it is safe to say this year has been uniquely challenging and thrust most of us into an existential whirlwind!). Apocalypse Forever? Post-political Populism and the Spectre of Climate Change by Erik Swyngedow challenges apocalyptic framing in climate change discourse, arguing that it more accurately s…

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Dec. 7, 2020

Ep 4: Natural capital to ecosystem services, how economic metaphors may be manipulating our realities

In this episode, we poke a stick at economic metaphors that are commonly used to describe sustainability and the environment. In the West, under a dominant neoliberal-capitalist milieu, we take stock of how this influences the way we communicate about nature, and the material dangers of doing so. Economic metaphors are not benign, and the longer we ponder, the more power it seems is embedded in metaphor. Indeed, words like "natural capital" or "ecosystem services" have become common tongue. Thr…

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Nov. 10, 2020

Ep 3: Addicted to conflict? Climate in journalism and the media

In this episode we look at the chapter “Journalism, Climate Communication and Media Alternatives” by Robert A Hackett and Shane Gunster from Carbon Capitalism and Communication. This book examines the role of communication in discussing the climate crisis. Specifically in this chapter, Hackett and Gunster critique the typical climate narratives explored by journalists and offer their perspectives on three approaches that are more effective with galvanising public support. They also discuss the …

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Nov. 9, 2020

Ep 2: Different ways of knowing through storytelling

In this episode we refer to a chapter Different Ways of Knowing: Trees Are Our Families Too , by Gladys and Jill Milroy, in Heartsick for Country: Stories of Love, Spirit and Creation , edited by Morgan, Mia and Kwaymullina 2008. In this chapter, the authors write that Western knowledge tends to exclude and marginalise many other ways of knowing, while imposing a belief in its superiority over all other ways of ‘knowing’ when in reality it is only one particular way of knowing the world. The 'w…

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Nov. 8, 2020

Ep 1: Climate language and meaning in the search for 'blue ice'

Have you ever found yourself lost for words? Maybe it's because there are no words — at least in the languages you speak. In this episode we look at research from the northern boreal forests in Ontario, Canada with the Cree, Ojibwe and Ojicree indigenous peoples. The study aimed to better understand the indigenous perspectives of framing climate change adaptation. Interestingly, these indigenous languages have no equivalent word for 'adaptation'. Sadly, the word itself had negative meanings for…

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Nov. 5, 2020

Ep 0: Hello and Welcome

Welcome to Talking In This Climate , where we explore how to become more mindful and effective communicators of climate and environmental issues. In this episode, meet the creators of the podcast and our aims for the journey ahead.

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